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I appreciate the setup instructional and the detailed deck decisions; especially the small awaken the dragon scenario hints. I like the idea of all events in the deck with a potential for a 0 play cost. That is really appealing with fealty.

I am still awaiting for my third core set in hand (I only picked up two copies at GenCon). This does seem like an intriguing way to play Targaryen and I want to continue playing them because I like the style and find it fun to play.

Just won a 16 player tournament with thr deck. Won against Tyrell Fealty, Targaryen Banner of the Lion, Martell, and Baratheon Banner of the Rose (kneel with some extra renown and STR boost) in the final.

@Bronze Glad you liked the commentary. I agree that Targaryen is really fun to play. You are right about Fealty giving you 0 cost events, it is awesome, you just have to be aware of the timing because Fealty is an action, so your opponent has an action before you can play the event, which really only matters in a Tyrell match, but it definitely matters.

Awesome deck, glad you took the tourney with it! This kind of thing is perfect for the new player, so a big thank-you on behalf of the community for the list and helpful comments. Hopefully I will get around to doing the same with some of mine!

Thanks for sharing this, this deck is really a tons of fun ! against agressive deck i never used seal of the hand due to me needing to spend golds to play characters, how do you feel about replacing them with tears of lys ? I feel seal is maybe win-more...

@CampingCalling Seal of the Hand 'win-more' is not quite accurate. Think of it as a tech card for the control matches, it doesn't really do much for you against aggro, but it actually wins games against control. So if you are playing against multiple players and you don't know for sure what they are playing, you need to have some cards that are useful for any match up you might face. Simply don't play the card (and/or discard it for reserve) when playing against aggro.

With that said, I think that if Seal of the Hand is being attached to a character like Khal Drogo, it is more valuable than playing any other 3 or lower cost character in that situation, even against an aggro deck. So it does depend on the specific scenarios being encountered in each game.

And in regards to Tears of Lys, it's a great card and certainly worth finding room for it. There are only 13 cards in the deck, so finding space for 2 Tears of Lys could be at the expense of some other cards. For example, one thing other players have mentioned is using only 2 copies of Drogon and Viserion, so you could try cutting one of each of those for Tears of Lys and keep Seal of the Hand in the deck. I'm hesitant to remove Seal of the Hand with Baratheon being such a strong deck in the current environment, if your gaming group doesn't use Baratheon, then go ahead and cut Seal of the Hand.

The deck can be seen in action at the Tulsa release tournament in the first and final (fourth) games of the archived) stream.

Thanks for your reply ! i'm still really new to the game and although i know Baratheon fealty is a thing , i didn't thought about it as a nice tech card. I don't feel cutting dragons for tears of lys thought, i like mah consistency lol.

@Camping Agreed about the Dragons, that's why I have them at all three copies. Just something to consider because Tears of Lys is a very good card for the deck and I am also thinking about where to find room for them.

@agktmte I suppose that you could get into the habit of just tapping the fealty card at the beginning of the challenges phase as an early bluff since it will reduce the cost of the next loyal card played that entire phase and then you won't have to worry about reactions from the actual use of the kneel effect of the card. Doing it every round consistently that way doesn't really hurt anything unless your opponent doesn't suspect its possible.

@Bronze I do that when I don't need the reduction for something else, if you watch the streamed games I linked above, you will notice that I did every turn against Tyrell in the first game and so when I finally had it on that deciding turn, he didn't respect the Dracarys and lost the game because of it.

I would try to get one more The Iron Throne in there.

@Zeetro I don't disagree, but I think The Iron Throne is a tech card that you include as a response to specific decks you are seeing. So if you are facing Chamber of the Painted Table or Aeron Damphair frequently, then you should use two copies. It probably should be included twice or not at all. Only one copy is a mistake right now and I could have benefited more from another card.

@agktmtewhat are your thoughts about putting FORTIFIED POSITION as PLOT? I saw one deck like this closely only difference he has Tears of Lys and Fortified Position and he dropped the Throne.. He said Fortified Position is for Bara enemies (current meta I think).. TIA

@gemofthrones I have cut The Iron Throne for Tears of Lys in my version as well, which was discussed in previous comments. In regards to Fortified Position, it is a great plot, I would switch Filthy Accusations for it in my version, but I’m not sure that it is necessary. I think there is enough flexibility to use whatever you like best in that spot. Both of these plots are good options, but something like The Winds of Winter could also be quite good.

I have used your deck last weekend and I have loss only once. But, I realized that i didnt use Counting Coppers. I have the idea of putting 2 copies of the Winds of Winter plot since Ive Khal Drogo almost always on board last weekend.. Maybe dropping Filthy Accusations, The Wildfire Assault (since its 2 claim military) or Confiscations(we have Viserys on deck, but this plot helped a lot).. your thoughts?

@gemofthronesI would not double up on The Winds of Winter because of Khal Drogo. The main reason I think this deck is so good is because it has multiple avenues of play, doubling up on the Khal Drogo line makes it that much harder to win if he is neutralized or if you don’t draw him in your game. I like to keep my options open and give myself versatility while playing. This is why I prefer Counting Coppers over Summons, since more cards will give me more options and there are a lot of good ones in the deck. Basically, you play whichever type of game you draw. Once you start changing plots around for specific scenarios and/or combos, you will lose that versatility and the deck becomes higher variance, by which I mean it is more boom or bust in its performance.

Yeah for a while I toyed with the idea of putting Summons in this deck in its place as well while playing with it. But there were more times where I am hoping to draw into one of my remaining event cards than anything to keep tempo going. This has me keeping Counting Coppers in for its place. The consistency of characters is enough where the summons hasn’t found a necessity over it.

Just took a variant of this 3-0 in a field of 20, came 2nd. Thanks.

I just piloted this (as a base, with small changes) in a field of 15 as well to 2nd. Unfortunately, neither of us that just reported came out on top here. I lost twice; once before the cut and once at the finals. Both of the losses were against . I feel that this is the matchup that I struggle with the most.

I don’t feel like the games were unbeatable, they were close. But if I can’t keep the pressure on enough, I feel as though they win out and find a moment with Rise of the Kraken to get a nice push round and fire out a serious gain to victory.

Greyjoy wasn’t quite as popular and Rise of the Kraken wasn’t released when this list was first published. So now we have to crack that matchup.

I think Tears of Lys is important to get Balon Greyjoy out of the way as soon as possible. Also, the only thing resembling a counter to Rise of the Kraken is A Game of Thrones. Maybe we can make room for those somewhere. In this published list, Filthy Accusations and Wildfire Assault are both flexible options that could be replaced.

Those are good points. It has been somewhat common for the player to run several Little Bird in their decks as well however, and a good place of that on the right character is often enough or Euron Crow’s Eye. But it is potential one of the better options that we have.

Fortified Position would most likely keep the round from being too terrible, but still would likely cause a claim 2 to find its way through. But hopefully taking out the stealth and Balon Greyjoy abilities would keep the power swell down. But, I am not sure that Fortified Position is a good choice, just another potential option to drop in that situation.

Both times I knew that Rise of the Kraken was coming that turn. I don’t think it is often much of a surprise. So dropping one of those plots at the right time might keep that turn from becoming a disaster. Best choices we potentially have right now though that I can think of.

Help me out here but doesn’t Targ need to see Danny? If so why no summons plot?

“@Thejunkie42` Summons is one of the plots that I put in instead of the second A Noble Cause. I can manage to get the next Lord or Lady that I find on my own. But I do need to find them as you pointed out. And it is a decent recovery after a Varys or Wildfire Assault. That is one change of mine to the deck.

@Thejunkie42 Not the way I originally envisioned the deck. I think a lot of players focus a little too much on making sure they get a specific character into play, but there are enough good characters and effects besides Daenerys Targaryen that it isn’t necessary to have her. Even if you use Summons you may not see her. So don’t think about the deck that way.

With her and Khal Drogo in the deck, I always play it in whatever style needed based on the cards I’ve drawn. So with that in mind, Littlefinger and Counting Coppers made more sense to get me a few more cards if I don’t have Daenerys Targaryen.

Since she is the only in-faction draw it is pretty important to get her into play, but not important enough to use Summons in my opinion.

Some games I can get Khal Drogo turn 1 and then I just play it aggro style, sometimes I get Daenerys Targaryen right away and I can play the Voltron style with a big character claiming power through Renown and sometimes I saw neither character so I would just grind out some games with the control and recursion effects.

Dracarys! is one of the most important cards to get and Counting Coppers is the only plot that helps you find it.

@agktmteawesome deck thank you. What do you mean by 4 cards in the opening hand : “Setup: Look for at least 4 cards with 1 Limited. Mulligan otherwise.? “. Also would you be looking ideally to be first or second player most of the time ?

@Ohhomycoco I mean that you should have at least four cards that you can place in setup and one of them should be limited. If my starting hand does not meet that criteria then I will mulligan (knowledge of your opponent and/or their deck can change that, but as a beginner it helps to just have some rules to help you decide).

Going first or second is interesting, I play the deck in a more reactive way so I typically pefer to go second. However, if you have Khal Drogo and an ability to win both challenges, then it could be advantageous to go first.

@agktmtethanks - that makes sense !

@agktmte Are you thinking about Supporting the Faith? You have only 0 and 1 (loyal) costed events. And the plot make your opponent’s problematic events (PttS, ToL, Treachery or Seen In Flames) unplayable.

@Nutso Not really. I don’t think the effect is worth the low initiative and reserve. Also, I am using Tears of Lys in my newer versions and that is just asking for trouble. But it is worth experimenting with, could be a solid choice if you plan to protect Daenerys Targaryen and/or Khal Drogo rather than use them expendibly.

Have you published your updated version agktmte?

I just came in first with a small spin on this a couple weeks ago in a group of 14 . It went undefeated before and after the cut. It performed better against much better than it did in a previous event. Nonetheless, 1st, 2nd and 3rd so far with this.

Where do you plan to fit in a Crown of Gold? I am thinking of taking out a single Waking the Dragon for it, which have occasional great promise, but also sometimes just end up in my hand with little use.