Winter Pain Train

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ChannelDelibird 1068

Went 4-0 in a 12-player GNK in Reading, UK on April 24 (Calm Over Westeros wasn't legal). Get big characters, get unopposed challenges, get more big characters, then get really big, juicy, two-claim unopposed challenges in Winter.

Originally ran two Snowed Under but found in testing that I usually didn't need the third economy plot and the Fishwhiskers stuff is really just a bonus (plus there's Old Nan if you need to switch him on) so switched it out for a Wildfire Assault just before the tournament and that plot ended up being the MVP on the day.

Game 1: vs Lannister Crossing (Joel P) Got drawn against one of my regular testing partners in the first round so I knew his Jumping Lions deck pretty well. He mulliganed into a pretty middling setup but, despite seeing almost none of his good events or Tywin, soon had me worried as I was drawing mostly dupes compared to his suite of Jaime, Cersei, Tyrion, Pycelle and occasional appearances from the Burned Men and the Hound. But Wildfire brought me back and my two characters (Balon and Arya, with Little Bird and Seal on Balon) were better than his three. It would have been a bigger win if I hadn't spent the whole game playing around a Put to the Sword that he'd been relentlessly bluffing.

Game 2: vs Stark Fealty (James C) I fell behind in power totals quickly and early when he got out six characters by the end of first-round marshalling to my three but a Wilfire soon brought that back into parity. That turn, Lordsport Shipwright knelt out the one reducer location that he needed to play both Eddard Stark and Ice and he agreed afterwards that choosing Ned to marshal was the wrong pick. The Seastone Chair and Put to the Sword did for Ned and Jon Snow that turn and from then on it was a foregone conclusion.

Game 3: vs Stark Crossing (Ryan P) His deck made full use of Winterfell and packed its plot deck full of Winter accordingly. I set up Fishwhiskers. It wasn't close. (Also featured an amusing turn-one marshalling in which both of us played out Eddard Stark with a dupe.) We had a rematch in the spare time afterwards in which he wiped the floor with me, though, so there by the grace of the gods and all that...

Game 4: vs Martell Fealty (Darren H) Darren had done me a favour by beating a Bara Fealty in the previous round to spare me that matchup (I've teched a bit against Bara with Newly-Made Lord and Seal of the Hand but they still pose this deck serious problems), but was eager to get revenge on me for beating him out of a top-two finish in our last Winter Kit.

He set up Quentyn Martell and a Bastard Daughter then marshalled Nymeria Sand on the first turn... as well as Ghaston Grey, which was a problem as I had set up Balon Greyjoy. Fortunately, he let Fishwhiskers through to We Do Not Sow Ghaston and I could get to work. This earned ol' Fishy a death-by-Quentyn, but it was worth it. A couple of turns later, he got Ghaston out again and I WDNSed it again, despite him having had a chance to discard it with His Viper Eyes (he'd got rid of Newly Made Lord for similar reasons but it was probably the wrong pick). He'd also Confiscated Balon's Seal, only for me to immediately topdeck another copy. Meanwhile, the two-claimers were raining down and I was able to see off Nymeria and Areo Hotah on a The Winds of Winter turn, leaving just Doran Martell on the board.

He was still able to bring out The Red Viper, Syrio Forel and Arianne Martell, which threatened to wipe out my ability to win unopposed with the various stealths and strength boosts, but my power total by this point forced him to play defensively and eventually, thanks to kneeling out his third Ghaston with the Shipwright, winning initiative with Wildfire on the sixth round allowed me to seal the deal.


With Calm Over Westeros in mind, I'll probably be making room for some Iron Mines (because why wouldn't you?) which might involve going down to one Old Nan (whom I like quite a bit in this deck to save me from The Long Winter and enable Fishwhiskers, but didn't get the chance to do as much on the day as her occasional contributions in testing) and possibly losing a Risen from the Sea. Otherwise, it feels very solid and was a lot of fun to play.

5 comments

phirephox 1

Love the idea behind this deck. I'm a House Greyjoy fan and love getting around people and this is something I would enjoy playing myself. I do have a question about your choice in not choosing Rise of the Kraken? I find it to be a pretty decent plot to swing away with the game.

ChannelDelibird 1068

@phirephox I cut Rise from my Greyjoy decks about two months ago and have never missed it. It gets you big swings, but it's pretty win-more and inflexible. Clash of Kings is doing more than enough work for me, and the renown/unopposed/two-claim tech elsewhere sets it all up for Clash to close. Greyjoy also tends to need all the money that it can get (in my experience, anyway), especially now to maintain a broad presence that can withstand First Snow, Bara kneel and Martell icon removal.

imabunneh 361

Pfft, luckbased win in the final round! :D

But yeah, I saw literally all my answers to duped Sealed Balon, and you saw all the answers to my answers. Was a good difficult match. I'll get you next time gadget!

MargareyWillHaveMyBabies! 1

Why banner with Stark anyway? Aside from Arya's stealth and the new improved Eddard, what is the Stark banner actually gaining you aside from forcing you to reduce your warships and not using Raiding Longships. . . . . actually seriously WHY SO FEW WARSHIPS?!

ChannelDelibird 1068

Well, I originally picked up the Wolf banner because Old Nan seemed like a good ally for Fishwhiskers, but Ned is definitely the big star of the deck. Pair him with Balon for big rush, pair him with Fishy for to make those winter challenges guaranteed 5+ for Support/PTTS, he's just great.

Arya's a huge improvement on Wendamyr, as well - stealth in the icons I want plus durability for First Snow. And Bran helps me shore up my character base without having to run Hand's Judgment to cancel Dracarys (which is pretty much the only event that I care about cancelling, thanks to Risen and now Iron Mines).

Osha is also a lot of fun on a two-claim turn: cheeky 2-STR intrigue challenge to force my opponent to either block big to protect their hand (in which case she stands up and my really important challenges are harder to stop) or eat two cards for very little expense on my part.

While I love Raiding Longships - they're massively impactful - they don't fit so well with the purpose of the deck, because the big two-claim winter plots are less likely to give me initiative control. I'm aiming to use stealth to ensure that I win big, meaningful challenges, not to go all-in to win every challenge unopposed. What's nice about Greyjoy these days is that people assume that you want to go first, so will sometimes make you go second as a preventative measure. That suits me! Now they have to decide how much they can afford to kneel out their board before I hit them big on the counterpunch, and I stand a better chance of avoiding Milk, kneel, etc. The Greyjoy Go-First deck is a really good deck, no doubt, but it's not this deck.